Why Doesn’t the Immune System Attack Cancer?
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23 Oct 2018 02:36 - 23 Oct 2018 02:39 #59277
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Why Doesn’t the Immune System Attack Cancer?
www.wired.com/story/meet-jim-allison-the-texan-who-just-won-a-nobel-cancer-breakthrough
www.wired.com/story/meet-jim-allison-the-texan-who-just-won-a-nobel-cancer-breakthrough
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23 Oct 2018 13:05 #59278
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I think because the immune system on its own cant kill off the causer of cancer. One has to kill off the causing organism before cancer can die. I believe cancer doesn't come on its own
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25 Oct 2018 20:24 #59287
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But, I've been told (by MD Anderson) that the immune system does attack cancer, it's just not strong enough to kill it completely. However, some 10%+ of cancers just disappear, so maybe the immune system was strong enough in those cases.
MMS attacks pathogens... cancer isn't a pathogen. But mms makes the body healthier, so our immune system will be stronger and can attack cancer.
MMS attacks pathogens... cancer isn't a pathogen. But mms makes the body healthier, so our immune system will be stronger and can attack cancer.
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06 Dec 2020 08:16 #66795
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It is also known that cancer excretes the enzyme Nagalase and which is known to numb down the activation process of, again, cancer devouring macrophages. The weaker the immune system, the more cancer, the more nagalase which in turn will inhibit the activation of the macrophages causing the cancer to proliferate till death occurs.
I'm sort of skeptical to Nobel prizes. Especially ones like these and which ultimately comes down to a cure for cancer by some magical vaccine that gets approved by the FDA and will cash in billions. Especially when you think of that it is well known by now how to boost the activation of macrophages with help of certain foods and nutrients.
I call BS. The whole vaccine industry is based on the so called activation of T-cells for an ever growing list of profitable pathogens. What we're not told is that these same T-cells depend on the availability of plenty of oxidant generating white blood cells.
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As the macrophages mentioned in the article are white blood cells that are a very important part of the immune system, and since macrophages indeed kill cancer by devouring the cancer with help of a strong oxidizers similar to ClO2, then yes you would need a well functioning immune system to successfully fight off cancer.Dawna wrote: the immune system does attack cancer, it's just not strong enough to kill it completely..
It is also known that cancer excretes the enzyme Nagalase and which is known to numb down the activation process of, again, cancer devouring macrophages. The weaker the immune system, the more cancer, the more nagalase which in turn will inhibit the activation of the macrophages causing the cancer to proliferate till death occurs.
I'm sort of skeptical to Nobel prizes. Especially ones like these and which ultimately comes down to a cure for cancer by some magical vaccine that gets approved by the FDA and will cash in billions. Especially when you think of that it is well known by now how to boost the activation of macrophages with help of certain foods and nutrients.
I call BS. The whole vaccine industry is based on the so called activation of T-cells for an ever growing list of profitable pathogens. What we're not told is that these same T-cells depend on the availability of plenty of oxidant generating white blood cells.
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06 Dec 2020 10:52 #66798
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The answer to that question is likely as simple as poor diet causing poor immune function.
(there are more causes of cancer than just poor diet, I know)
GcMAF immune therapy is actually boosting immune function by stimulating macrophage activity through nutrition and supplements. GcMAF therapy is being suppressed. GcMAF is also an important indicator for ClO2 being effective against cancer, because white blood cells like macrophages do generate oxidants.
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CLO2 wrote:
Why Doesn’t the Immune System Attack Cancer?
www.wired.com/story/meet-jim-allison-the-texan-who-just-won-a-nobel-cancer-breakthrough
The answer to that question is likely as simple as poor diet causing poor immune function.
(there are more causes of cancer than just poor diet, I know)
GcMAF immune therapy is actually boosting immune function by stimulating macrophage activity through nutrition and supplements. GcMAF therapy is being suppressed. GcMAF is also an important indicator for ClO2 being effective against cancer, because white blood cells like macrophages do generate oxidants.
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09 Dec 2020 22:24 #66866
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White blood cells use hypochlorous acid to kill invaders. MMS2 (calcium hypochlorite) turns into hypochlorous acid when combined with water. Perhaps MMS2 helps fight cancer.
Nagalase helps cancer spread. Many (deceased) doctors have said there is nagalase in vaccines.
www.naturalnews.com/050582_nagalase_GcMAF_cancer_industry_profits.html
Nagalase helps cancer spread. Many (deceased) doctors have said there is nagalase in vaccines.
www.naturalnews.com/050582_nagalase_GcMAF_cancer_industry_profits.html
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19 Dec 2020 02:24 - 19 Dec 2020 02:47 #67096
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Dr. Otto. Warburg investigated the metabolism of tumors and the respiration of cells, particularly cancer cells, and in 1931 was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology for his "discovery of the nature and mode of action of the respiratory enzyme.
He proved that when O2 in a cell was reduced to 35%, that cell becomes a cancer cell and there is no return to normal. At that point the cell reverts to a primitive state of survival . Fermentation of glucose. I believe a low or no carb diet will kill cancer due to the lack of glucose to feed it. The respiration of the individual cell should be the focus of cancer prevention. This is done by supplying our bodies with the 2 essential fatty acids that is seriously lacking in our modern diet. A 2:1 ratio of omega 6 and omega 3. ONLY UNADULTERATED, ORGANIC AND RAW EFAs For a long time I've been taking a tablespoon each of flax oil and sunflower oil. More recently I have switched to Hempseed oil which contains both omegas in almost petfect ratio. . I learned all this from : brianpeskin.com. of course he is maligned and dismissed as a KOOK. All the more reason to check him out
Andreas Kalcker also proved that clo2 adds oxygen to your blood , besides killing pathogens
Conclusion : cancer is not a foreign invader. It's a cell survival mechanism. Unfortunately at this point in our evolution we need oxygen to survive. Before oxygen thats how cells operated
He proved that when O2 in a cell was reduced to 35%, that cell becomes a cancer cell and there is no return to normal. At that point the cell reverts to a primitive state of survival . Fermentation of glucose. I believe a low or no carb diet will kill cancer due to the lack of glucose to feed it. The respiration of the individual cell should be the focus of cancer prevention. This is done by supplying our bodies with the 2 essential fatty acids that is seriously lacking in our modern diet. A 2:1 ratio of omega 6 and omega 3. ONLY UNADULTERATED, ORGANIC AND RAW EFAs For a long time I've been taking a tablespoon each of flax oil and sunflower oil. More recently I have switched to Hempseed oil which contains both omegas in almost petfect ratio. . I learned all this from : brianpeskin.com. of course he is maligned and dismissed as a KOOK. All the more reason to check him out
Andreas Kalcker also proved that clo2 adds oxygen to your blood , besides killing pathogens
Conclusion : cancer is not a foreign invader. It's a cell survival mechanism. Unfortunately at this point in our evolution we need oxygen to survive. Before oxygen thats how cells operated
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19 Dec 2020 14:24 #67103
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So yes cancer very likely is a last resort immune function.
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-which would be a blood oxygen depriving process. The same reason for why diabetes 2 is a risk factor for both CVD and cancer. Because the recirculation of toxins caused by liver disfunction (or the liver refusing to process sugar/carbs any longer) would cause the toxic byproducts of the burning of sugar and carbs to circulate forever, causing hypoxia (lack of oxygen) Which in turn is an important clue for why ClO2 works against cancer.Chris Jackson wrote: toxic re-circulation.
So yes cancer very likely is a last resort immune function.
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