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31 Mar 2016 15:49 #51678
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oh forgot to add, my bp was 108/74 the other day, thats why i think im woozy and my heart hurts, my BP is too low.
im 35, 230lbs 6'2" in excellent shape, i workout atleast 2 times per day.
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im 35, 230lbs 6'2" in excellent shape, i workout atleast 2 times per day.
thoughts? thanks
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31 Mar 2016 18:18 #51682
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Just my 2 cents worth, and I'm not a doctor at all,
I sometimes get a little "angina" pain that seems to be from the heart. So I just take a low dose asprin. (enteric coated) The Bayer kind for children. That seems to make the pain go away for some reason. And it doesn't come back for days. But if I stay off the pizza and red meat it just is completely gone!
This sort of "heart pain" seems to come the day after I had a cheezy pizza or a lot of red meat.
The next day I pay for my sins!
You'd have to start recording what you are eating to find out what is dumping lots of fats and possibly cortisol or estrogen into your system. Red meat is notorious for containing estrogen from the estrogen pills that they inject into the necks of most cattle to fatten them up before slaughter.
They are supposed to remove the pills before slaughter, but that is not always the case, and the meat is possibly still saturated with estrogen even after the pills are removed from the animal.
The estrogen is not destroyed by cooking, and everyone on a municipal water supply is probably ingesting some of it because of the ground water contamination from birth control pills. Throw in a little Chlorine and you have a real nightmare.
I know that sounds crazy, but look it up. Estrogen is wreaking havoc with wild fish.
I read somewhere that the lining of the aorta and such is the only place in the body that cholesterol builds up. This is the body's "first aid" for aorta problems but it can get out of control.
And this is to repair the tiny micro tears that occur in those areas. This saves your life in the short term, but too much cholesterol can block off the arteries too much and cause a heart attack!
I don't know why the Asprin works so well because it's only 81 mg. It might thin the blood a little and that could help get oxygen to the heart muscle much easier. That would make it stop hurting too. the pain is from oxygen starvation.
Anyway, if you are getting "woosey" you need to figure it out before it causes a real serious problem. Everyone is about 2 heartbeats away from death at any moment.
Asprin is only first aid and not a cure, and big doses are not reccomended because they can cause burning of the stomach liining. (Ulcers) Especially if the asprin is not coated so that it can pass thru the stomach before it melts the tablet.
Good luck!
I sometimes get a little "angina" pain that seems to be from the heart. So I just take a low dose asprin. (enteric coated) The Bayer kind for children. That seems to make the pain go away for some reason. And it doesn't come back for days. But if I stay off the pizza and red meat it just is completely gone!
This sort of "heart pain" seems to come the day after I had a cheezy pizza or a lot of red meat.
The next day I pay for my sins!
You'd have to start recording what you are eating to find out what is dumping lots of fats and possibly cortisol or estrogen into your system. Red meat is notorious for containing estrogen from the estrogen pills that they inject into the necks of most cattle to fatten them up before slaughter.
They are supposed to remove the pills before slaughter, but that is not always the case, and the meat is possibly still saturated with estrogen even after the pills are removed from the animal.
The estrogen is not destroyed by cooking, and everyone on a municipal water supply is probably ingesting some of it because of the ground water contamination from birth control pills. Throw in a little Chlorine and you have a real nightmare.
I know that sounds crazy, but look it up. Estrogen is wreaking havoc with wild fish.
I read somewhere that the lining of the aorta and such is the only place in the body that cholesterol builds up. This is the body's "first aid" for aorta problems but it can get out of control.
And this is to repair the tiny micro tears that occur in those areas. This saves your life in the short term, but too much cholesterol can block off the arteries too much and cause a heart attack!
I don't know why the Asprin works so well because it's only 81 mg. It might thin the blood a little and that could help get oxygen to the heart muscle much easier. That would make it stop hurting too. the pain is from oxygen starvation.
Anyway, if you are getting "woosey" you need to figure it out before it causes a real serious problem. Everyone is about 2 heartbeats away from death at any moment.
Asprin is only first aid and not a cure, and big doses are not reccomended because they can cause burning of the stomach liining. (Ulcers) Especially if the asprin is not coated so that it can pass thru the stomach before it melts the tablet.
Good luck!
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31 Mar 2016 18:29 #51683
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I forgot to add:
Back off on the MMS or whatever is causing your pain and wooseyness. You are going too fast. I am sure that anyone would back me up on this advice.
Use the search engine on here and you will see this advice over and over.
Good luck!
Back off on the MMS or whatever is causing your pain and wooseyness. You are going too fast. I am sure that anyone would back me up on this advice.
Use the search engine on here and you will see this advice over and over.
Good luck!
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31 Mar 2016 18:30 #51684
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Four MMS1 size-2 tablets hourly (12 drops of MMS1 equivalent) is quite a large amount of MMS to be taking.
You might cut that dose in half and see what happens.
You might cut that dose in half and see what happens.
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31 Mar 2016 22:26 #51690
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ok thanks for your thoughts, it does seem to go away if i back off the mms1 and 2. This is day 2 of not taking any of it... tomorrow i will hopefully feel better and go back on but will keep the doses lower, 2 tablets every other hour, and 1 tablet mms1 every other hour.. thanks for your input.
just for clarification the dose i am doing was 1 tablet of mms2 every other hour, and 3-4 tablets of mms1 every other hour as well, but staggered so not the same hour as mms2, ... so basicaly every hour im taking one of the compounds, but alot of the time i dont hit it every hour i miss it etc.... so really im probably taking 5 -6 doses of mms1 and 5-6 of mms2 total in a day....
thanks again.
just for clarification the dose i am doing was 1 tablet of mms2 every other hour, and 3-4 tablets of mms1 every other hour as well, but staggered so not the same hour as mms2, ... so basicaly every hour im taking one of the compounds, but alot of the time i dont hit it every hour i miss it etc.... so really im probably taking 5 -6 doses of mms1 and 5-6 of mms2 total in a day....
thanks again.
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01 Apr 2016 02:54 #51693
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I forgot to add:
Back off on the MMS or whatever is causing your pain and wooseyness. You are going too fast. I am sure that anyone would back me up on this advice.
Use the search engine on here and you will see this advice over and over.
Good luck!
Back off on the MMS or whatever is causing your pain and wooseyness. You are going too fast. I am sure that anyone would back me up on this advice.
Use the search engine on here and you will see this advice over and over.
Good luck!
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01 Apr 2016 03:00 #51694
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Thanks for all the input, dont really think im going to fast though, been at this 6 weeks... dont really feel any nausea any more or diahrea...
will pull back the doses and try to get them more frequently, thanks!
will pull back the doses and try to get them more frequently, thanks!
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01 Apr 2016 15:34 #51704
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I've used to have heart pains, been told by the docs that it is all in my head. been skeptical about that. they gave me anti depressants and it is true... it all passed. don't want to say that it is in your head too, but just want to say that it might be a thought... by the way, these ADs are working amazing for me.
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