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23 Apr 2014 17:53 #43470
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I am sorry to say so, it does not answer the question your answer has nothing to do with my questions.
I appreciate your kindness for thinking with me, however.
I am sorry to say so, it does not answer the question your answer has nothing to do with my questions.
I appreciate your kindness for thinking with me, however.
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23 Apr 2014 18:04 - 23 Apr 2014 18:08 #43471
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Why can ACTIVATED MMS diluted in water or CDS burn the skin or for example the throat?
From my understanding ACTIVATED MMS or CDS does not harm the body organs because it only has an
oxidation potential of 0.95 v and the body's organs tissues can stand oxidation levels higher then 1.30 v.
So why can it burn or in other words harm the skin or the throat?
Or another thought i have is when you gas the skin it can burn it as well if you leave the cup with activated MMS on the area of the skin for too long.
According the way i understand the oxidation theory it should not be possible, right?
I hope some one can answer these questions because it really confuses me.
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Sorry for me making a mistake by saying/using the word MMS in my first post instead of using the words ACTIVATED MMS.
I see this confuses people.
From my understanding ACTIVATED MMS or CDS does not harm the body organs because it only has an
oxidation potential of 0.95 v and the body's organs tissues can stand oxidation levels higher then 1.30 v.
So why can it burn or in other words harm the skin or the throat?
Or another thought i have is when you gas the skin it can burn it as well if you leave the cup with activated MMS on the area of the skin for too long.
According the way i understand the oxidation theory it should not be possible, right?
I hope some one can answer these questions because it really confuses me.
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Sorry for me making a mistake by saying/using the word MMS in my first post instead of using the words ACTIVATED MMS.
I see this confuses people.
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23 Apr 2014 18:33 #43472
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I did not going to answer your question because you want answer that are not related. If you make Activated MMS you know that you use a saturate solution of Citric Acid or 4% of HCL. No all the acid react leaving behind Acid that will burn your. If you don't use enough water will burn. An please leave the Oxidation Potential out of the question because is not related to the burning.
I did not going to answer your question because you want answer that are not related. If you make Activated MMS you know that you use a saturate solution of Citric Acid or 4% of HCL. No all the acid react leaving behind Acid that will burn your. If you don't use enough water will burn. An please leave the Oxidation Potential out of the question because is not related to the burning.
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23 Apr 2014 20:58 #43477
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first of all gas is 20 times stronger than diluted in water so it burns second the activated drops diluted with water never burn the skin except the case that exist too much pathogen in the surface which poison the skin as a reaction to their dying of activated mms.
the burning throat its happening again if there is a nest of pathogen in your throat and then again the pathogen poison the place and you feel it as a burning.
from my experience i had a nest of pathogen to Eustachian tube who broke my ear drum.
after 15 days of injected drugs i had almost the same problem so i decided to use activated drop with dmso.
i used i drop citric acid to four drops of mms so that the ph was about 6.8 and dilute with 30 drops of dmso and i drop 2 drops and wait to pass through the broken ear drum the burning sensation was too strong and last almost 30 minutes the next day i make the same process and the burning sensation last only one minutes the third day i make again the same process and felt the rolling of the drops until down to my lungs.
that was meaning for me that my Eustachian tube was fully free and that mms never burns and the sensation of burning is from the pathogen which produce too much poison in order to stop the mms kill them.
first of all gas is 20 times stronger than diluted in water so it burns second the activated drops diluted with water never burn the skin except the case that exist too much pathogen in the surface which poison the skin as a reaction to their dying of activated mms.
the burning throat its happening again if there is a nest of pathogen in your throat and then again the pathogen poison the place and you feel it as a burning.
from my experience i had a nest of pathogen to Eustachian tube who broke my ear drum.
after 15 days of injected drugs i had almost the same problem so i decided to use activated drop with dmso.
i used i drop citric acid to four drops of mms so that the ph was about 6.8 and dilute with 30 drops of dmso and i drop 2 drops and wait to pass through the broken ear drum the burning sensation was too strong and last almost 30 minutes the next day i make the same process and the burning sensation last only one minutes the third day i make again the same process and felt the rolling of the drops until down to my lungs.
that was meaning for me that my Eustachian tube was fully free and that mms never burns and the sensation of burning is from the pathogen which produce too much poison in order to stop the mms kill them.
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23 Apr 2014 21:12 #43478
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Thanks for the both of you very interesting!
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23 Feb 2016 11:28 #51200
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I read an oxydation potential of chlorine dioxide of 0,95 V.
This seems to be too low; books speak of about 1,57 V @ pH7 against H+.
Where comes the 0,95 V from?
This seems to be too low; books speak of about 1,57 V @ pH7 against H+.
Where comes the 0,95 V from?
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25 Feb 2016 02:12 #51243
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25 Feb 2016 10:11 #51250
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Thank you. Great information. That is what every chemist does say. Tomas gives enough proof that ClO2 is not such safe as it is told.
But even if its potential would be as low as that of oxygen or lower, it might harm human cells. Their potential is said to be 0.10 to 0.3 V.
And E.coli is about 0.9 V which can not be reached then.
Two questions remain,
- when does ClO2 have its high potential of 1.57 V? I believed THIS is against the H-electrode.
- when do we have the situation with 4/5 e and when with one e? Do we have the 4/5 e situation in the body or in the glass with any acid? Or is it the 1 e situation in the glass (which is filled with water)?
But even if its potential would be as low as that of oxygen or lower, it might harm human cells. Their potential is said to be 0.10 to 0.3 V.
And E.coli is about 0.9 V which can not be reached then.
Two questions remain,
- when does ClO2 have its high potential of 1.57 V? I believed THIS is against the H-electrode.
- when do we have the situation with 4/5 e and when with one e? Do we have the 4/5 e situation in the body or in the glass with any acid? Or is it the 1 e situation in the glass (which is filled with water)?
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28 Feb 2016 22:05 #51284
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If we put activated MMS or CDS 3000ppm on our skin it does burn.
likewise if we drank either one straight it would burn our internals until it gets diluted in the stomach.
We don't drink it straight. We dilute it with at least 4oz of juice or water.
Dilution is the solution.
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likewise if we drank either one straight it would burn our internals until it gets diluted in the stomach.
We don't drink it straight. We dilute it with at least 4oz of juice or water.
Dilution is the solution.
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28 Feb 2016 22:53 - 28 Feb 2016 22:56 #51287
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Putting 3000 ppm or stronger CDS on most healthy external skin does NOT burn! MMS (22.4% sodium chlorite) will burn skin after a short time. Maximum skin contact time is 5 minutes. It is used un-activated for insect bites, etc.
MMS1 on skin might burn as the MMS is only 10% activated.
MMS1 on skin might burn as the MMS is only 10% activated.
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