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JB13 Just a quick question: I followed the instructions for making cdh overnight in 1 oz. bottle. I read your calculations on potency:

139.5mg / 31ml = 4.5mg CLO2 per 1ml of CDH, 0.19mg/drop CDH
● 139.5mg / 1.3ml SC = 107mg CLO2/ml, 4.5mg/drop of SC used.
● Not bad compared to the maximum theoretical yield of 6.7mg per drop of SC.
● 5.0mg/drop SC has been achieved using the CDH Two Bottle method. (Test #59)
● Each drop of 746 drops CDH contains 0.19mg of CLO2. (24 drops = 1ml solution)

I understand that the cdh is weaker than original mms (or the max to extract from sc)= 6.7mg and cdh = 4.5mg per 1ml. (one bottle one ounce production) I have been dosing as 1ml cdh is = 1 drop mms., looks like 1ml cdh is 67% of 1 drop mms. Can someone please clarify. No need for anything other than equivalency.

so 1.3ml of cdh would be approx = 1 drop mms?

Penny,

the maximum theoretical yield of 6.7mg per drop of SC.

is just that; theoretical. No one knows how much CLO2 a "drop" of SC will produce from classic MMS. Very little CLO2 is made from classic MMS outside the body and we assume much more is made inside. But, we have no way to measure that as far as I know.

I understand that the cdh is weaker than original mms

is not true. Both use the same ingredients, and are just activated differently. They may produce the same results, but we don't know that now. We need more people using CDH to find out. If no one will use CDH because it is unproven, how will we prove its effectiveness?

The 1ml CDH compared to 1 drop SC when making classic MMS only applies to the CDH One and Two Bottle Recipes, not to the capsule recipes. And that comparison is not proven.

gjplaceres, until a few days ago, the current CDH Capsule Recipes were short lived, only good for a day or less. Experimenting with the recipe, it seems there is one that is more stable. I will be changing infosheet_cdh.pdf as soon as I measure the CLO2 concentration of the latest capsule recipe.

It is difficult to compare CDH or CDS to classic MMS because we don't know how much CLO2 MMS will produce inside the body. Probably best to dose CDS and CDH until the desired result is obtained. We need more testing to determine if CDS and CDH will provide the same results as classic MMS.

gjplaceres, said:

I was reading your PDF for CDH. The capsule method that is The one I like. Is three drops of the 30 ml solution or six for the three drop protocol.

The PDF file has been updated now and it would be great if you folks who use the capsule method would try CDH Capsule Recipe #2 outlined on page 8 of the PDF file.
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/infosheet_cdh.pdf

Add 4 tsp DW to a 1 fl oz (30ml) glass bottle
Add 1 tsp SC
Add 1 tsp 4% HCL
Fill to top with more DW
Activate about 15 minutes then put the bottle in a fridge for an hour or so. You are done!

That would be 20ml DW + 5ml SC + 5ml 4HCL= 30ml + additional ~2ml of DW to fill this bottle full. Fill the bottle as full as you can to keep the air space to a minimum. Past testing has shown a 25% increase in CLO2 when the bottle is full compared to half full. I think we are forcing the CLO2 into solution rather than let it outgas and escape when the bottle is opened.

This CDH produced 0.57mg CLO2/drop (13.7mg/ml) of the 32ml CDH. If you can fit 15 "drops" in a capsule, that would give you 8.6mg of CLO2 per capsule. About 9 "drops" of this CDH may be equal to a MMS 60 second activated 3 drop, 4HCL activated dose. Depends on how much more, if any, MMS activation occurs inside the body.

After 8 days, the color changed only slightly and the CLO2 ppm stayed the same. This recipe seems stable for at least a week which should be enough time to use up the contents of the bottle.

JB13, I am using the 1 oz mixture as a dosing bottle, not for capsules and I think I am just getting too technical here, but to be sure. I take 10ml dw put it in a shot glass. I take 1ml from the 1 oz. dosing bottle and add it to the 10ml in the shot glass. I then add that to a tsp of baby food and my one dog eats it right up --- that is for the 1 drop per hour dose.

My second dog (who eats anything) will not take it that way, she can smell it. I just discovered mixing it with about 1/4 tsp peanut butter, mix it until it is liquidy and she eats it no problem. I also tasted that and for those out there who don't like the taste may want to try it. It is a small amount of peanut butter but it completely takes out any taste or smell.

It's funny I was just contemplating the two recipes and had a question come to mind. the two bottle method has the bottle of concentrated mixture added to the larger bottle of dw, seems to me that just diluted the concentration as compared to the one bottle method which is used directly. the two bottle method dilutes to 840ml as a dosing mixture that I would use the same amount to add to yet another dilution for doses?

I don't really need to understand the chemistry behind it as I am fine with the one bottle method as long as I am using it correctly, it just came to mind as I read the two instructions.

As I mentioned, the CDH Two Bottle Method came first, then we discovered how to make the same thing using a One Bottle Method. The difference is one is easier to make, but takes longer and the other is faster to make, but is more complicated. Choose your poison!

The CDH Capsule Method was originated by Jim because he uses the capsule method. So, we have been working with that method, too. His original recipe did not use any water and was very unstable. The latest Capsule Recipe seems quite stable. It can be used without capsules and I have done that. It is a different One Bottle Recipe but I think we will call it CDH Capsule Recipe #2 for clarity.

The key to dosing is knowing how much CLO2 you want. You decide on that amount of CLO2 personally or in your case, what your dogs can tolerate.

You can use a particular recipe and learn how much to use. That works. I like a more technical way to measure the dose and that is knowing how much CLO2 is in whatever recipe I will be using. The unit of measure would be milligrams of CLO2 which can easily be determined if you know how much CDH you have and what the CLO2 concentration is in ppm, which can be measured using CLO2 test strips. Or, if you follow one of the published recipes and using the same bottle, cap, etc, we know how much that recipe will produce.

The 840ml CDH made using the Two Bottle Method will produce about 3000mg of CLO2 as noted in the "How to use CDH - 1 or 2 Bottle Methods" section in infosheet_cdh.pdf file. So, each 1ml of that CDH contains 3.6mg of CLO2. That makes it easy to keep track of how much CLO2 in mg one is ingesting.

240ml CDH made using the One Bottle Method will produce about 840mg of CLO2 which is 3.5mg per ml of the CDH. About the same as the above example.

The latest CDH Capsule Recipe #2 produces 13.7mg per ml of CDH, almost four times as much CLO2 as the two previous examples. If using CDH made that way, you would use 1/4 as much compared to the One & Two Bottle Recipes.

That one might make it past the TSA goons if labeled Water Purification Drops?

Thank you for that clarity.

I am considering the capsule method to eliminate any issues as the doses get stronger for my dogs and for myself.

Does the new recipe allow for the cdh to stay in the capsule longer before dissolving?

JB13, you are very generous with your time and knowledge, and patient, and I appreciate that.

I found that water alone will melt a capsule in 1 to 2 minutes.

You will have to be quick once the capsule is loaded.

I must enjoy what I am doing here or I would be somewhere else!

There are other subjects that interest me and once nice weather again is in sight, I will be doing other things. But, with snow on the ground and temps in the mid-teens, inside is a nice place to be.