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03 Apr 2014 09:23 #42584
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Diagnosis: Fungal in Nature … Infection in Lungs … (Valley Fever)
I have a 12.5 yr old Weimaraner, 62 pounds ... with Valley Fever Lung Infection
Rev Ray … Question
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You say one drop per 25 pounds … so the correct protocol procedure is 3 drops, rounding up for 62 pounds … any harm … any benefit … if he is able to say take 4 to 6 drops without stress … every hour … (Just asking) and respect your opinion/experience.
(Rev Ray said … for a Canine … recommended dose 1-drop per 25 pounds … is that a starting dose??… …. If the starting dose ... JUST ASKING for Clarification … so I am clear. If just the starting dose … then what is my target … for the Hourly dosing protocol for the Canine 62 Pounds. … If refer back to your first statement … 1 drop per 25 lbs … then I am clear.
Also ... You say wait to give MMS-1 time to work … before going to using MMS-2 … and proceed to MMS-2 … if no progress seen.
Since I jumped the gun … and he has been on MMS-2 for past 4 days … and doing ok on it …. I assume … I should just continue.
I Know I am stubborn and relentless in perusing an aggressive strategy and if I may use the word anxious to get him cured … yes my nature is to push things just a bit …
but not to blow the guidance out of the water either … so I likely walk a fine line … but am wanting to stay on your side of aggressive but acceptable … and in your good graces.
Yes … it may not be strictly according to the book … but also using less than half the dose of MMS-2 … meaning … a Number-4 Capsule vs. a “0” or “00” capsule is conservative in my thinking.
As I take it “SLOW” (in a sort of aggressive manner) … Gone back to 4 drops of MMS-1 every 60 to 90 minutes …for a 10 to 12 Hour Day … and MMS-2 (NUMBER 4 Capsule) every 2 hours for a 12 hour day … he seems to be doing well at these doses with No Stress …(vomiting/Nausea issues) I usually keep the doses of MMS-1 and MMS-2 … separated by 30 to 45 minutes …to prevent the biological stress issues.
I spoke with my VET yesterday … www.anthonyanimalclinic.com … Dr. Kincaid, a great guy … and magical when it comes to his care and experience using his alternative methods of administering care to our special family members.
Dr. Kincaid … recommended I continue the treatment for 5 weeks with MMS-1 and MMS-2.
So … I will gladly keep the protocol up for 5 weeks … then go get a Lung X-Ray, to see how things look … hopefully … much improved.
I will post again on my progress and results ...
The best to you all.
Bob
Diagnosis: Fungal in Nature … Infection in Lungs … (Valley Fever)
I have a 12.5 yr old Weimaraner, 62 pounds ... with Valley Fever Lung Infection
Rev Ray … Question
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You say one drop per 25 pounds … so the correct protocol procedure is 3 drops, rounding up for 62 pounds … any harm … any benefit … if he is able to say take 4 to 6 drops without stress … every hour … (Just asking) and respect your opinion/experience.
(Rev Ray said … for a Canine … recommended dose 1-drop per 25 pounds … is that a starting dose??… …. If the starting dose ... JUST ASKING for Clarification … so I am clear. If just the starting dose … then what is my target … for the Hourly dosing protocol for the Canine 62 Pounds. … If refer back to your first statement … 1 drop per 25 lbs … then I am clear.
Also ... You say wait to give MMS-1 time to work … before going to using MMS-2 … and proceed to MMS-2 … if no progress seen.
Since I jumped the gun … and he has been on MMS-2 for past 4 days … and doing ok on it …. I assume … I should just continue.
I Know I am stubborn and relentless in perusing an aggressive strategy and if I may use the word anxious to get him cured … yes my nature is to push things just a bit …
but not to blow the guidance out of the water either … so I likely walk a fine line … but am wanting to stay on your side of aggressive but acceptable … and in your good graces.
Yes … it may not be strictly according to the book … but also using less than half the dose of MMS-2 … meaning … a Number-4 Capsule vs. a “0” or “00” capsule is conservative in my thinking.
As I take it “SLOW” (in a sort of aggressive manner) … Gone back to 4 drops of MMS-1 every 60 to 90 minutes …for a 10 to 12 Hour Day … and MMS-2 (NUMBER 4 Capsule) every 2 hours for a 12 hour day … he seems to be doing well at these doses with No Stress …(vomiting/Nausea issues) I usually keep the doses of MMS-1 and MMS-2 … separated by 30 to 45 minutes …to prevent the biological stress issues.
I spoke with my VET yesterday … www.anthonyanimalclinic.com … Dr. Kincaid, a great guy … and magical when it comes to his care and experience using his alternative methods of administering care to our special family members.
Dr. Kincaid … recommended I continue the treatment for 5 weeks with MMS-1 and MMS-2.
So … I will gladly keep the protocol up for 5 weeks … then go get a Lung X-Ray, to see how things look … hopefully … much improved.
I will post again on my progress and results ...
The best to you all.
Bob
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03 Apr 2014 10:09 #42585
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Question, Comments ... words of advice.
Rev Ray ... question to you possibly ...
I have researched DMSO and MMS-1 ... and remembering Rev Ray said ... DMSO side or treatment is a critical part ...
I read about the oral application of DMSO ... and the Transdermal procedure of application.
I am working to implement this "DMSO" portion of the MMS-1 Protocol ... on a twice a day schedule.
I see where and how the Oral and Transdermal procedures are applied ...
I am figuring ... that since I am on the 60 to 90 min ingestion of MMS-1 ... 3 drops 10 to 12 hour day time frame ... Oral ... DMSO ... 15 min prior to giving oral MMS-1 ... Done twice a day ... would likely work.
If need be ... using DMSO with MMS-1 for Transdermal ... doing this twice a day ... I am assuming 3 drops of MMS-1
Keeping it to 3 drops for each on both oral and transdermal ... is appropriate due to ... I am treating a "CANINE" ... 62 pounds ... and this dose of MMS-1 would be sufficient and proper.
or do we raise the MMS-1 drops up to some higher number for the Transdermal application.
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Bob
Rev Ray ... question to you possibly ...
I have researched DMSO and MMS-1 ... and remembering Rev Ray said ... DMSO side or treatment is a critical part ...
I read about the oral application of DMSO ... and the Transdermal procedure of application.
I am working to implement this "DMSO" portion of the MMS-1 Protocol ... on a twice a day schedule.
I see where and how the Oral and Transdermal procedures are applied ...
I am figuring ... that since I am on the 60 to 90 min ingestion of MMS-1 ... 3 drops 10 to 12 hour day time frame ... Oral ... DMSO ... 15 min prior to giving oral MMS-1 ... Done twice a day ... would likely work.
If need be ... using DMSO with MMS-1 for Transdermal ... doing this twice a day ... I am assuming 3 drops of MMS-1
Keeping it to 3 drops for each on both oral and transdermal ... is appropriate due to ... I am treating a "CANINE" ... 62 pounds ... and this dose of MMS-1 would be sufficient and proper.
or do we raise the MMS-1 drops up to some higher number for the Transdermal application.
Thanks to all
Bob
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04 Apr 2014 00:44 #42634
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Thanks Rev-Ray ... my MMS-2 Caps ... are NUMBER 4 .. in size .. that is less than 1/2 of a "0" Capsule ... maybe between a third to Half of a "0" .... so close enough to 60 pound .. if I have troubles ... will open it up and shake some out.
I have used Diatomaceous Earth .. so am up to speed on it ... will get some and add it to their food.
So For MMS-2 .. if I read correctly ... your saying ... 2 X 1/3 of a "0" Capsule ... (maybe a # 4 capsule is close enough) administer it .. AM and PM
and for MMS-1 ... for 60 lbs .. 3 drops up to 6 drops Twice a Day .. AM / and PM
He has no tender areas ... if I am using DMSO ... it would be .. for just getting more of the MMS-1 to the right places in his body ... as I understand the purpose.
Again .. 3 to 6 drops of DMSO .. as well as 3 to 6 of MMS-1 ... lay it on .. let it soak in ...
I have used Diatomaceous Earth .. so am up to speed on it ... will get some and add it to their food.
So For MMS-2 .. if I read correctly ... your saying ... 2 X 1/3 of a "0" Capsule ... (maybe a # 4 capsule is close enough) administer it .. AM and PM
and for MMS-1 ... for 60 lbs .. 3 drops up to 6 drops Twice a Day .. AM / and PM
He has no tender areas ... if I am using DMSO ... it would be .. for just getting more of the MMS-1 to the right places in his body ... as I understand the purpose.
Again .. 3 to 6 drops of DMSO .. as well as 3 to 6 of MMS-1 ... lay it on .. let it soak in ...
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08 Apr 2014 14:14 #42837
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Rev Ray
Good Morning fm Indiana ..
Questions.
With Dakota ... and myself ..
I have ordered the right kind of DMSO to use both orally and topically ... I will incorporate.
I have Jim Humble's Newest Book on MMS.
I like the procedures of using a plastic bag ... and the protocol of making an MMS gas inside the bag ... for I think 15 min .. of course that is the the head out of the bag ..
.... I will try and incorporate this procedure as well.
One issue I am having ... it seems when I go too strong on the drops ... it seems to cause issues with upset stomach/Nausea and some vomiting with Dakota the dog ... so to keep this from happening
I am keeping the dose at 3 drops for now ... on the oral ... activated mixture ... using about 4 to 6 oz of water ... seems to be working ...
The above is being done on an hourly basis with time out for breakfast / lunch and supper/ with the last dose ... about an hour prior to bed .... usually last dose about 7 or 730 pm.
I am doing the same protocol on myself ... for my multiple viruses ... I have ME/CFS ...
The question and problem is ... stomach upset with both of us ... and slight/mild back-door trots for me ... I have kept the dose at 3 drops ... on an hourly basis .. trying to work up to 4
Will the protocol still be effective ... (Incorporating the other items as well, DMSO, Plastic Bag enclosing around body from the neck down ... etc)
Will the protocol still be effective ... taking it this slow and with the low dose ... but just take longer to get to the place or target we are shooting for .. again with the LOW DOSE of 3 drops ... trying to work up to 4 ..
I will continue to increase the dosage over time as able ... but was specifically wanting to know .... if constantly administering ... will 3 to 4 drops work ... but just take longer .... ??
We are planning on doing the hourly dose ... over a 6 week period .... for me and my Weimaraner "Dakota"
Again ... issue with Dakota is a Fungal Infection of the Lung ...
My doctor will muscle test me for the viruses at that time ... 6 weeks from now ..
Dakota will get an Chest X-Ray to see if the Lung Fungal Infection has retreated ...
Your advice and comments are welcome ...
Good Morning fm Indiana ..
Questions.
With Dakota ... and myself ..
I have ordered the right kind of DMSO to use both orally and topically ... I will incorporate.
I have Jim Humble's Newest Book on MMS.
I like the procedures of using a plastic bag ... and the protocol of making an MMS gas inside the bag ... for I think 15 min .. of course that is the the head out of the bag ..
.... I will try and incorporate this procedure as well.
One issue I am having ... it seems when I go too strong on the drops ... it seems to cause issues with upset stomach/Nausea and some vomiting with Dakota the dog ... so to keep this from happening
I am keeping the dose at 3 drops for now ... on the oral ... activated mixture ... using about 4 to 6 oz of water ... seems to be working ...
The above is being done on an hourly basis with time out for breakfast / lunch and supper/ with the last dose ... about an hour prior to bed .... usually last dose about 7 or 730 pm.
I am doing the same protocol on myself ... for my multiple viruses ... I have ME/CFS ...
The question and problem is ... stomach upset with both of us ... and slight/mild back-door trots for me ... I have kept the dose at 3 drops ... on an hourly basis .. trying to work up to 4
Will the protocol still be effective ... (Incorporating the other items as well, DMSO, Plastic Bag enclosing around body from the neck down ... etc)
Will the protocol still be effective ... taking it this slow and with the low dose ... but just take longer to get to the place or target we are shooting for .. again with the LOW DOSE of 3 drops ... trying to work up to 4 ..
I will continue to increase the dosage over time as able ... but was specifically wanting to know .... if constantly administering ... will 3 to 4 drops work ... but just take longer .... ??
We are planning on doing the hourly dose ... over a 6 week period .... for me and my Weimaraner "Dakota"
Again ... issue with Dakota is a Fungal Infection of the Lung ...
My doctor will muscle test me for the viruses at that time ... 6 weeks from now ..
Dakota will get an Chest X-Ray to see if the Lung Fungal Infection has retreated ...
Your advice and comments are welcome ...
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08 Apr 2014 14:32 #42839
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According to the book, you may have to use they clay for fungus. I am Ned to this but read fungus can be different.
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08 Apr 2014 15:08 #42843
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Robert - sorry but should have included this in one the earlier posts. I have been watching some videos and have heard about MORINGA powder that is being used by Bishop Mark Grenon in Columbia.
They were making CDS for the people there to use.
I haven't searched yet where to get, but here is what he said about it: "used for malnutrition in children (sprinkle on food) -- removes bad varicose veins in 30 days -- tumors leave -- corrects your metabolism -- builds up the immune system -- DON"T TAKE at the same time as MMS protocol --take like 2 hrs after the protocol or in the A M - 1 hr before meals" It probably would really work if someone is wanting to also lose weight (even though he didn't say so), but he did say that it cuts down your appetite. Their Genesis Church are planting and growing thousands of the trees there
I think it also comes in capsules - They call it the Tree of Life - Moringa Oleifera. I know I am going to find it and get some to add to my MMS usage. I will first check with Keavys corner (who I buy my supplies from) and go from there. I'm pretty sure I have seen it on the list of some of Jims approved suppliers.
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They were making CDS for the people there to use.
I haven't searched yet where to get, but here is what he said about it: "used for malnutrition in children (sprinkle on food) -- removes bad varicose veins in 30 days -- tumors leave -- corrects your metabolism -- builds up the immune system -- DON"T TAKE at the same time as MMS protocol --take like 2 hrs after the protocol or in the A M - 1 hr before meals" It probably would really work if someone is wanting to also lose weight (even though he didn't say so), but he did say that it cuts down your appetite. Their Genesis Church are planting and growing thousands of the trees there
I think it also comes in capsules - They call it the Tree of Life - Moringa Oleifera. I know I am going to find it and get some to add to my MMS usage. I will first check with Keavys corner (who I buy my supplies from) and go from there. I'm pretty sure I have seen it on the list of some of Jims approved suppliers.
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08 Apr 2014 15:10 #42844
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Barb ... thanks
But as I remember reading .... the clay was for external fungus ... this fungus is in the lungs ...
If I have something wrong or have my information mixed up .... let me know
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But as I remember reading .... the clay was for external fungus ... this fungus is in the lungs ...
If I have something wrong or have my information mixed up .... let me know
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08 Apr 2014 15:19 #42846
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There is external application but it can be taken internally. Horsefeathers has used it internally and may have more information.
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I don't know very much about clay. Here is a link that is very useful. The clay group is very good and kind, like here.
www.aboutclay.com/discussion_group.htm
There is a man here, I think his name is Clint, but not certain, that also belongs to the clay group. He is good.
There is a man here, I think his name is Clint, but not certain, that also belongs to the clay group. He is good.
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Hello
Wanted to say .. I got your message of April ... concur
I wanted to up date my treatment of Dakota (12.5 yr old Weimariner with Lung Fungal Infection. My vet does muscle testing Long Distance .. and he says .. Dakota is improving on the
MMS Protocol ... I am using Protocol 2000 ... using DMSO where DMSO drops equal MMS and Activator drops ... also using 1/4 of a # 4 Capsule of MMS 2 ...
In the beginning .... had some issue with MMS 2 after successfully getting him up to 4 to 6 drops of MMS ... and had to suspend the MMS2 until I got the bulk MMS2 powder/grains .. and geletin capsules size 4 ... After being on the MMS-1 for a couple of week and getting my MMS2 supplies ... I was able to get MMS2 incorporated into the protocol .. starting out a couple capsules the first day .. then up to 4 the next day .... working to get up to 6 capsules a day ... filled to only 1/4 full (# 4 capsule) ... and 4 to 6 drops of MMS-1 (Trying for every hour .. but often 1.25 to 1.5 hrs apart. sometimes 2 hrs ... (I do the best I can) ... but I don't quit ... (As I can with MMS-2... I will increase the fill of the capsule to 1/2 .. but likely not more than 3/4 ... due to Dakota being a Dog .. and his weight being only 65 pounds (My goal for MMS-2 is 5 to 7 doses per day ... He will probably do well on the 1/3 to 1/2 dose of MMS-2 ... as long as I am consistent. .... With MMS-1 ... I will work to get consistant with 6 drops on an 1 hr to 1.5 hour basis ... with a goal of 8 to 10 doses per day. ... My overall consistency is not horrible .. and I keep working at it ..
I realize the Protocol 2000 is for Humans .. and Dakota is a Dog ... so although the way I am administering it ... is a bit off from a Human using Protocol 2000 ... I am doing my best to get as consistent as I possibly can ... and sometimes its just not easy ...
I am moving back to New Mexico from Indiana in June and will see my vet personally then to verify Dakota's progress at recovering from Lung Fungus ... we shall see.
I also expect to keep Dakota on the protocol for a couple of months ... do to the consistency not being as good as is "IDEAL" ...
I do have to say .. he is adjusting to the Protocol and is tolerating it much better than in the beginning ...
It has been a struggle to get consistent ... and to balance the dosage to keep him from throwing up ... so I now ... work to be real conserative in my administration of the given doses ... so as not to cause him discomfort ....
making progress ... I have finally found the niche that works ... using a variable of 3 to 6 drops of MMS ... trying for every hour 10 times a day .. most days .. 8
Wanted to say .. I got your message of April ... concur
I wanted to up date my treatment of Dakota (12.5 yr old Weimariner with Lung Fungal Infection. My vet does muscle testing Long Distance .. and he says .. Dakota is improving on the
MMS Protocol ... I am using Protocol 2000 ... using DMSO where DMSO drops equal MMS and Activator drops ... also using 1/4 of a # 4 Capsule of MMS 2 ...
In the beginning .... had some issue with MMS 2 after successfully getting him up to 4 to 6 drops of MMS ... and had to suspend the MMS2 until I got the bulk MMS2 powder/grains .. and geletin capsules size 4 ... After being on the MMS-1 for a couple of week and getting my MMS2 supplies ... I was able to get MMS2 incorporated into the protocol .. starting out a couple capsules the first day .. then up to 4 the next day .... working to get up to 6 capsules a day ... filled to only 1/4 full (# 4 capsule) ... and 4 to 6 drops of MMS-1 (Trying for every hour .. but often 1.25 to 1.5 hrs apart. sometimes 2 hrs ... (I do the best I can) ... but I don't quit ... (As I can with MMS-2... I will increase the fill of the capsule to 1/2 .. but likely not more than 3/4 ... due to Dakota being a Dog .. and his weight being only 65 pounds (My goal for MMS-2 is 5 to 7 doses per day ... He will probably do well on the 1/3 to 1/2 dose of MMS-2 ... as long as I am consistent. .... With MMS-1 ... I will work to get consistant with 6 drops on an 1 hr to 1.5 hour basis ... with a goal of 8 to 10 doses per day. ... My overall consistency is not horrible .. and I keep working at it ..
I realize the Protocol 2000 is for Humans .. and Dakota is a Dog ... so although the way I am administering it ... is a bit off from a Human using Protocol 2000 ... I am doing my best to get as consistent as I possibly can ... and sometimes its just not easy ...
I am moving back to New Mexico from Indiana in June and will see my vet personally then to verify Dakota's progress at recovering from Lung Fungus ... we shall see.
I also expect to keep Dakota on the protocol for a couple of months ... do to the consistency not being as good as is "IDEAL" ...
I do have to say .. he is adjusting to the Protocol and is tolerating it much better than in the beginning ...
It has been a struggle to get consistent ... and to balance the dosage to keep him from throwing up ... so I now ... work to be real conserative in my administration of the given doses ... so as not to cause him discomfort ....
making progress ... I have finally found the niche that works ... using a variable of 3 to 6 drops of MMS ... trying for every hour 10 times a day .. most days .. 8
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