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09 Jan 2015 19:40 #48760 by red_wing_fan
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Hi,

My background info - diagnosed HIV+ in May, 2014. Initial CD4 count of 150, VL of 66,400.
CD4 dropped to as low as 61, but has since recovered to 148.
VL fluctuates between undetectable and 400s.
Diagnosed with Kaposi's (cancer that affects HIV+ and immune-compromised individuals) in September, 2014.

I have tried starting Protocol 2000 twice, but each time never got past day 2.
I seem to do OK the first day, but it is during the second day that I develop problems. I get extreme nausea and diarrhea, and vomiting. The first time doing the protocol - Dec 2014 - I ended up in bed for 3 days sicker than a dog. I assume the die off exceeded my body's ability to get rid of the toxins. However, following this treatment failure, my CD4 Count jumped from 102 to 148 (after 3 straight months of dropping from 152 down to 102).

I tried my 2nd attempt at P2000 starting January 5, 2015. I eased into the increasing of the drops. Still, on day 2 I ran into the same problem - nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. I was not in bed for 3 days this time, so I guess it was more mild. On January 9 I decided to try a single drop every hour. I got through 5 hours (5 drops) and have already encountered the diarrhea.

Any suggestions? And possible causes for what I'm experiencing?

I do think this therapy was responsible for my CD4 increase, and that is extremely important. I just don't know what to do that will allow me to stay on this protocol. I'm not really getting past P1000.

Any advice is appreciated.
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10 Jan 2015 02:38 #48769 by CLO2
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red_wing_fan, what acid activator are you using to activate MMS? Are you taking MMS2 along with MMS1 since you are using Protocol 2000? Can you tell us details on how you make MMS1 in case you are not doing that correctly.

Thanks.

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10 Jan 2015 14:22 #48778 by red_wing_fan
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I am only doing MMS1 at the moment as i never get to day 3. I'm using wps and a citric acid activator (attached in image).

When I mix the drops or drop it gives off a noxious gas and turns dark yellow during the 20 seconds.

Within that second day I get the diarrhea, vomit, and get a horrible, almost burning feeling in my intestinal area. I get a lot of cramping in that same area along with cramping in the feet and the calves. That feeling if sickness lasted 3 days in December and 2 days here recently in Januar .

Still hoping to stay on the MMS1 long enough and with no problems that I can go into the MMS2.

Is it possible with both cancer and hiv that in experiencing die off right away and it's overwhelming my ability to get rid of the toxins?

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10 Jan 2015 18:13 #48781 by Patico
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I think that you need to watch the video of Andreas Kalcker in yutube He'll explain why the count is going up....and how mms works.
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10 Jan 2015 18:30 #48782 by red_wing_fan
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I understand both. I need help in understanding my body's reaction to the protocol.

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10 Jan 2015 21:27 #48783 by CLO2
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red_wing_fan, do you get the reactions when taking one drop of MMS activated with 1 drop of 50% citric acid? If so, then take less and stay on that dose if you can for a day or two, then try to increase.

It is possible that the citric acid is bothering your stomach.

Since you have both MMS and 50% citric acid, you could try making CDH or CDS. I suggest you make CDS as it will have only chlorine dioxide gas in distilled water and no citric acid. The CDS you make will keep in the fridge a long time unlike MMS1 which should be mixed hourly for each dose.

CDS making info is here .
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10 Jan 2015 22:05 #48784 by red_wing_fan
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I will try a single drop every hour for 8 hours of the day for two to three days and see how I do. It will be a few days before I am able to attempt this as I haven't recovered from the last attempt (still having diarrhea).

It's there another acid I could use in place of citric acid in case that is the cause?

Also, I will read up on CDS and get comfortable and knowledgeable on the subject incase that is what I attempt next.

Thanks to everyone for their help! I appreciate it very much.

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10 Jan 2015 23:20 - 10 Jan 2015 23:21 #48786 by CLO2
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4% HCL is a better acid choice and it tastes much better than citric acid. If you had 4% HCL I would suggest you try making CDH. Here is way to make one dose.
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11 Jan 2015 00:26 #48788 by red_wing_fan
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Thank you CLO2. I will order Hcl. How long do I agitate 4% Hcl with MMS1? Since it isn't 10% I assume it will need longer than 20 seconds. Maybe 50 seconds?

Is it possible my stomach acid is causing the reaction to continue while in my stomach and possibly that is the cause for my issues?

One again, thanks to all who have helped to educate me and suggested alternatives. I am grateful!

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11 Jan 2015 03:37 #48790 by CLO2
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You use 4% HCL the same way as 50% citric acid. Check out this activation time vs CLO2 concentration chart I made some time ago. I would activate for 1 minute and Kerri Rivera in her latest autism book also recommends 1 minute.

For MMS1 and CDH we count on stomach acids to finish the activation that is only partly done externally. MMS1 is about 15% activated and CDH about 50% activated externally. CDS can not activate any more because it does not contain any unreacted MMS. You could eat a cracker when taking a dose which might help with stomach upset. A few drops of SweetLeaf brand stevia drops will improve the taste a lot and does not kill the CLO2. Many flavors to choose. Citric acid tastes terrible!

Will be taking some photos and posting them here on a different way to activate MMS drops that almost eliminates any CLO2 aroma.
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